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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 3:20pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
This post was modified by high flow on 2010-06-14 22:20:21
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Poster: | elbow1126 | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 6:34pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | Cliff Hucker | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 3:56pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
Better grab this before it goes away! Even if you are ordering!
The tracks not included are certainly worth having, even though most are repeated during the late set:
Friend of the Devil
Candyman (x2)
Cumberland Blues
Cold Jordan
Easy Wind
Attics of My Life
Sadly the dynamite New Riders sets will likely go away as well. So grab these, at least for the gems Mama Tried, Sawmill and and Me and My Uncle with Weir sitting in!
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Poster: | Jim F | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 1:51am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
Also, apparently the currently circulating versions are all missing Deep Elem from the late show. I never knew that. Dunno if it's enough to convince people to spend 20 something bucks for a 3 minute tune they didn't already have on their circulating copy, but it's worth mentioning.
I too wonder about that cut in St. Stephen. I'm sure it's probably covered. It seems to me that that is a big deciding factor in what they release. It seems that if there is a cut and they can't cleverly disguise it, they usually don't release it (or go the partial route). Though I was REALLY surprised when they released parts of 8/6/74 (of course, "parts," never complete, an argument that both sides have valid points, but personally I'm in the "release complete shows" camp) that they actually used an AUD patch. That's the only case of them doing that that I can think of.
That was a big bummer for me with the "Other One" bonus track from 9/3/72 that was on the 9/21/72 Dick's Pick. There is something like 1:12 missing, and they just cleverly smoothed it over, you wouldn't even notice if you didn't know it was there. I may be nitpicking, but that 1:12 was actually one of my favorite parts of the jam, Bobby plays these really cool chords that are burned into my memory.
I like to support the band and all, but between the "hidden" costs of collecting music like internet, blanks, electricity, etc, I don't think I will buy this one. The Dark Star is good but otherwise these aren't shows I listen to very much. They're ok, but not something I'd get all hot and bothered about an official release like I did with 2/14/68 or something.
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Poster: | light into ashes | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 12:20pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
Anyway, I believe 5-15-70 is one of those dates which have TWO sources - the Dead have their own tapes, and the Fillmore crew was also secretly taping. I think the secret Fillmore reels are the ones that circulated. So (aside from the missing songs) there shouldn't be any cuts.
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Poster: | Jim F | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 10:01pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
I did not get any of the official releases of the October 78 shows, couldn't tell ya about that.
Oh yeah, I forgot, the circulating 5/15/70 is from different, non-vault reels. Are they the same mix, I wonder? Same feed, different deck?
I keep meaning to see if the patch was covered in the PITBand from the new patched version of Miller's 12/19/73 (the first example of a "snip" on an official release, perhaps? there are others but I can't think of them now). We were all so focused on the missing bass solo that I think we all forgot about the reel flip in Playin'. In both cases, from listening to the DP I had no clue there was anything missing. It was only a couple years ago when I first heard the aud that I noticed the missing bass solo and patched it in myself.
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Poster: | midnightcarousel | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 7:40am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | Jim F | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 10:08pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | elbow1126 | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 6:33pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | Cliff Hucker | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 6:43pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
And if "A Voice From on High" with Marmaduke and Dave Nelson sitting in can be included in this RT release, couldnt Mama Tried, Sawmill and/or Me and My Uncle have been included as well?
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Poster: | elbow1126 | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 6:51pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
On a completely different note, have you checked out the listening party for RT3-3? Maybe its me but it sounds like crap!! I hope this is some issue of low bit rate streaming.
As for releasing this show as a boxed set, there are so many other boxed sets I would rather see (the French '72 shows, Winterland '74 to name a few) so I am fine with a 3+ release of this, as long as it sounds better than what I hear on that listening party.
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Poster: | midnightcarousel | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 7:45am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | Lou Davenport | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 7:54pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | midnightcarousel | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 7:48am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | Jim F | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 9:59pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
9/11-best Eyes of the year? Hard to beat that jam>eyes.jam>wharf rat.
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Poster: | Lou Davenport | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 7:26am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | elbow1126 | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 6:24am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2010-06-15 13:24:07
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Poster: | Cliff Hucker | Date: | Jun 15, 2010 4:56am |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
Also, the Bo Diddley set is included in DP #30 (3/25/72)
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Poster: | Arbuthnot | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 3:40pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
somehow i keep forgetting about that end result ... i guess that means it's only a partial archive of sorts
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Poster: | johnnyonthespot | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 7:24pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
yeah but if you don't already have it ( like who do we know here that doesn't? ) then that's the perfect excuse to buy it
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Poster: | mickmac | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 7:28pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | mickmac | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 7:33pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
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Poster: | high flow | Date: | Jun 14, 2010 10:45pm |
Forum: | GratefulDead | Subject: | Re: New Road Trips 5-15-70!!!!!!!! |
This post was modified by high flow on 2010-06-15 05:45:15